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Aug 20 2008, 04:07 AM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 459 Joined: 24-June 07 Member No.: 8,153 |
Norá Kovács (21) and István Ráb (22) -- from the Budapest Opera House dancers, in May 1953
Valery Panov (21) -- Mali and later Kirov dancer was sent home from San Francisco in disgrace in July 1959. After 15 years of escalating persecution he was finally allowed to leave Russia for Israel with his wife, Galina Ragozina, in June 1974. Rudolf Nureyev (23) -- Kirov dancer in Paris, June 1961. Natalia Makarova (29) -- Kirov dancer in London, September 1970. Mikhail Baryshnikov (26) -- Kirov dancer in Toronto, June 1974. Aleksandr Godunov (29) -- Bolshoi dancer in NY, August 1979. Li Cunxin (20) -- in Houston 1981. Rolando Sarabia (24), dancer from the National Ballet of Cuba. in Miami 2005. Who are the others? |
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Aug 20 2008, 05:24 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,583 Joined: 20-November 99 From: New York Member No.: 125 |
John Wey Ling in Jackson, Mississippi, 1982.
Alexandra Koltun and Janna Sinitsyna, in Washington, 1991. Alberto Alonso (New Mexico?) c 1993. Leonid and Valentina Kozlov, Los Angeles, 1979. The articles that I saw said that Rolando Sarabia defected by going from Mexico into Texas in 2005? |
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Aug 20 2008, 05:25 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,583 Joined: 20-November 99 From: New York Member No.: 125 |
Isn't that Istvan Rabovsky?
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Aug 20 2008, 06:04 AM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 459 Joined: 24-June 07 Member No.: 8,153 |
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Aug 20 2008, 06:59 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,583 Joined: 20-November 99 From: New York Member No.: 125 |
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Aug 20 2008, 08:03 AM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 554 Joined: 3-March 01 From: Boca Raton, FL Member No.: 551 |
I am not actually sure of the date. (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I should have asked when I had the chance. Maybe one of you knows.
circa. 1971 Ballet master Jurgen Schneider (East Berlin) in Helsinki, Finland from Comischer Oper tour, East Berlin There were quite a few East German dancers who defected in the early 1970's. |
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Aug 20 2008, 08:07 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
From Ballet Nacional de Cuba the list is endless-(I posted one somewhere, but i can't remember where...)
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Aug 20 2008, 08:11 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,583 Joined: 20-November 99 From: New York Member No.: 125 |
c 1970, Alexander Filipov and Gennadi Vostrikov from the Moiseyev Ensemble, in Mexico.
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Aug 20 2008, 03:48 PM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 459 Joined: 24-June 07 Member No.: 8,153 |
Since musicians are as "portable" as dancers, unlike actors, I would have assumed that there would be many defections from within professional musician ranks. Do you think the numbers would be as high as with dancers? If not, why not?
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Aug 20 2008, 04:46 PM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
Cuban defections are, as i said earlier, endless. First there was Jorge Esquivel, one of Cuba's finest male dancers of the 60's, 70's and 80's, whose departure from the island in 1992 was considered a major defection. He joined San Francisco Ballet where he is now senior character dancer and teacher. More recentlyt here is this list, out of my head...
The Girls Lorna Feijoo-Boston Ballet Principal Lorena Feijoo-San Francisco Ballet Principal Hayna Gutierrez-Cuban Classical Ballet of Miami Principal Adyaris Almeida-Corella Ballet Principal Dalirys Valladares-Monterrey Ballet (Mexico) Principal Alyhaydee Carreno-National Classical Ballet of Dominican Republic Principal Lisbell Piedra-National Classical Ballet of Dominican Republic Principal Catherine Suaznabar-Maurice Bejart's B.of the XXth Century Dagmar Moradillos-Ballet Etudes/Miami Principal Rosario Suarez(Charin)-freelance teacher-(currently in Miami) Caridad Martinez-Residen Choreographer at Brooklyn Ballet The boys Rolando Sarabia-Miami City Ballet Principal Isanusi Garcia. Miami City Ballet Principal Carlos Guerra-Miami City Ballet Principal Joan Boada-San Franciso Ballet Principal Nelson Madrigal-Boston Ballet Principal Reyneris Reyes-Boston Ballet Principal Cervilio Amador-Cincinnatti Ballet Principal Lienz Chang-Roland Petit Ballet Principal Osmay Molina-Puerto Rico Ballet Principal Angel Laza-Monterrey(Mexico) Ballet Principal Daymel Sanchez-Monterrey (Mexico) Ballet Principal Taras Domitro-SFB Principal Miguel Angel Blanco-Cuban Classical Ballet of Miami Principal And then, there's that famous limbo where the deceased Fernandito Jhones (RIP), JM Carreno-(and ex wife/ex CNB Principal Lourdes Novoa)- and C.Acosta belong... |
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Aug 20 2008, 06:34 PM
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Rubies Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 4,869 Joined: 25-October 98 From: Cornwall-on-Hudson Member No.: 24 |
And then there was Kaleria Fedicheva, who married American Martin Freedman and for two years, despite her People's Artist of the Soviet Union title, was not cast in anything. In 1975, she was allowed to emigrate to join her husband.
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Aug 20 2008, 09:15 PM
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Diamonds Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 5,142 Joined: 18-January 04 From: south Florida Member No.: 4,271 |
Would George Balanchivadze (Balanchine), Alexandra Danilova, Tamara Gevergeva (Geva), and Nicholas Efimov, who left the Soviet Union in 1924 with permission but ignored demands that they return, be considered "defectors"?
Or Lidia Lopokova --who never came back to Russia after being stranded in the West during World War One? She also ignored orders to return. And how about Kurt Jooss, who fled Nazi Germany in 1933 and established his school and company in England. If we count those generations of dancers, the list of those escapaing political and artistic totalitarianism becomes rather larger. |
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Aug 20 2008, 10:56 PM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
I'm assuming-(and I'm pretty positive that this is the general feeling)-that the term "defection" in ballet nowadays is usually applied to those escaping from a communist country against official premises. (Hence, that's why I called earlier "a limbo" Acosta's and Carreno's current situation). Again, this is acknowledging that this would be just a chapter in a longer story , as bart just noted.
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Aug 21 2008, 07:08 AM
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Rubies Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 4,869 Joined: 25-October 98 From: Cornwall-on-Hudson Member No.: 24 |
Not necessarily communist, but "defect" has come to apply there. I think it applies to anybody escaping a totalitarian system with a practical "no-exit" policy.
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Aug 21 2008, 10:26 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
"Escaping" is the key word. Acosta and Sarabia both left the CNB roster. The first one "went to dance abroad", as the official remark went. The second doesn't get that lucky. Not being diplomatic relationships reestablished between Cuba and US since the early 60's, the fact of him deciding to stay in American soil means fitting into the Cuban official-(and even constitutional)-category of "traitor to the motherland", and hence, loosing all types of legal status. Then this is how he-(along with other thousands of us)- becomes a "defector". I guess it was the same during the Soviet years.
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