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May 6 2009, 12:00 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,119 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
Poll posted, so not much to add to it...
(just curious to see if I get some responses... (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wink1.gif) ) |
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May 6 2009, 12:09 AM
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Platinum Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,728 Joined: 14-May 06 Member No.: 6,510 |
This is a good topic, seems almost strange nobody came up with it till now. No, I'm not one. I love ballet, but I've found out from BT what a true balletomane is.
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May 6 2009, 12:43 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,119 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
Thanks for breaking the ice, Patrick!! I think the poll is a good idea...You know, a simple "Yes" or "No" one...so anonymity can be preserved...just in case the "yes" answer doesn't come out that easy... (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wink1.gif)
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May 6 2009, 06:43 AM
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Rubies Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 4,872 Joined: 25-October 98 From: Cornwall-on-Hudson Member No.: 24 |
Those two are balletomanes, I'm just a maniac. (With a (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/bow.GIF) in the general direction of Sam and Bella Spewack.)
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May 6 2009, 07:13 AM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 590 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Southern Westchester, NY Member No.: 7,005 |
I wasn't sure of the precise definition of the word so I surfed around and found this:
"A balletomane is someone who has a deep appreciation and enthusiasm for ballet. One of the most noted balletomanes in history was Edward Gorey, who attended every single performance of the New York City Ballet for several years in the 1950s. Gorey was so dedicated to ballet that he refused to leave New York City during the ballet season for a number of years specifically because he did not want to miss any ballet performances, an attitude which many balletomanes would sympathize with. This term is derived from the French word “ballet” and the Greek manes, which means “ardent admirer.” It was coined in the 19th century to describe ardent fans of the Russian ballet. At first, the term was meant to imply a certain amount of mania, with balletomanes supporting specific artists with an almost alarming level of fervor, sometimes coming to blows over performances. Bitter debates between balletomanes seemed comical to outsiders, who simply couldn't comprehend the level of devotion involved. In the 20th century, “balletomane” began to acquire less extreme connotations, and it came to be used more generally to describe someone who really enjoys ballet. In addition to seeing a number of ballet performances each year, a balletomane is also typically very well informed about the art of ballet, and he or she keeps up with major artists in the field. Many follow specific ballet companies, sometimes traveling to see them on tour, and balletomanes can often rattle off statistics about the roster of dancers in a particular company. A balletomane may also appreciate other forms of dance, but usually ballet is the first love. Many are enthusiastic about the history of ballet and the development of the art, and those with money often donate generously to ballet companies and programs to spread ballet. Season tickets to a local ballet company are a must for a balletomane, and balletomanes can often be seen clustered in the lobby during intermissions to discuss the performance. In addition to being knowledgeable about dancers, and sometimes directly acquainted with them, balletomanes also enjoy the music, costumes, sets, and lighting associated with ballet. Some may collect visual materials related to famous ballet companies, such as coffeetable books which feature stunning ballet sets, or recordings of notable orchestras performing music composed for the ballet. Balletomanes are also eager to share their collection and love for ballet with others, in most cases." Based of the above, as much as I admire and love ballet, I can't say I have devoted the required time and energy to this wonderful art. It's hard to imagine when someone has such a powerful attraction to the art that they don't actually get INTO it as more than an observer. I don't think I qualify. I'll have cast a reluctant vote of - No. |
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May 6 2009, 10:11 AM
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Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 6,173 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Vancouver Member No.: 3,390 |
I've never been sure whether the "t" was pronounced, so I've never said it out loud. But I suppose I have no excuse, with the Internet so close and all (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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May 6 2009, 10:35 AM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 663 Joined: 19-June 01 From: London UK Member No.: 738 |
I voted yes - guilty as charged.
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May 6 2009, 11:06 AM
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Diamonds Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 5,154 Joined: 18-January 04 From: south Florida Member No.: 4,271 |
Cristian, your challenge makes me realize that I've always been troubled by the "mania" implications of the term. There was also, I thought, a suggestion of frivolity and suprficiality in the way the term is often used., as in "tulipmania."
SanderO's research convinces me to give up my state of denial. As does Mel's: Those two are balletomanes, I'm just a maniac. After reading this thread I am now ready to say: QUOTE My name is Bart and I'm a balletomane. Is there a Twelve-Step group I should be attending? |
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May 6 2009, 11:37 AM
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Platinum Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,877 Joined: 15-December 01 From: New York, NY Member No.: 1,045 |
I voted no because I am a reformed balletomane. For many years now I have been strictly a Farrell follower.
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May 6 2009, 11:59 AM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 399 Joined: 4-July 08 Member No.: 9,508 |
Is there a Twelve-Step group I should be attending? Balletomanes Anonymous. The group meets nightly during the ABT Met season in the lobby of the balcony area. There is also a nightly meeting during the NYCB season on the Promenade. LOL! If you have to be addicted to something, ballet is perferable to drugs, alcohol or smoking, right. I'm guilty as charged. |
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May 6 2009, 12:07 PM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,038 Joined: 13-September 02 From: Maryland Member No.: 2,205 |
Having devoted my entire life to the art form since the age of seven, I think it is safe to say I am a balletomane. (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 6 2009, 02:59 PM
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Gold Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 763 Joined: 2-May 02 Member No.: 1,572 |
.....Balletomanes Anonymous. The group meets nightly during the ABT Met season in the lobby of the balcony area. There is also a nightly meeting during the NYCB season on the Promenade. Duly noted, with thanks. (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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May 6 2009, 06:47 PM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,119 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
Mm, interesting results so far...the "Yes, but..." surpasses the plain "No", but still the majority has answered "Yes"...
Keep 'em coming, people!! (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wink1.gif) |
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May 6 2009, 07:01 PM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 590 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Southern Westchester, NY Member No.: 7,005 |
I think most of the participants on BT are very keen on ballet and quite knowledgeable and would be balletomanes in my opinion. Having the moniker is something I aspire to. A guy can dream can't he?
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May 6 2009, 09:30 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 38 Joined: 20-January 05 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 5,178 |
I've never been sure whether the "t" was pronounced, so I've never said it out loud. But I suppose I have no excuse, with the Internet so close and all (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Me, too! I've always pronounced it "in my head" with the "t," and luckily, Merriam-Webster confirms that this is correct. Phew. Thanks, SanderO, for the definitions—I loved the description of Gorey as an example. Sadly, I haven't settled in a city that supports a true balletomane lifestyle. So I'm not, according to that definition. But if circumstances were different, I think I could be. |
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