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May 10 2009, 05:30 PM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 629 Joined: 6-January 02 From: Chicago Member No.: 1,118 |
So, at this afternoon's Joffrey season finale, three retiring dancers were each showcased in different dances. I felt moved to give a standing ovation to a dancer who has been with the company ever since I started attending, and who has given us many years of pleasure.
The woman behind me poked me in the rear and insisted I sit down. When I commented that I wanted to thank this dancer, she said, "You can write a letter." I did sit. When is a standing ovation acceptable? not acceptable? |
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May 10 2009, 06:43 PM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 398 Joined: 28-September 06 Member No.: 6,990 |
So, at this afternoon's Joffrey season finale, three retiring dancers were each showcased in different dances. I felt moved to give a standing ovation to a dancer who has been with the company ever since I started attending, and who has given us many years of pleasure. The woman behind me poked me in the rear and insisted I sit down. When I commented that I wanted to thank this dancer, she said, "You can write a letter." I did sit. When is a standing ovation acceptable? not acceptable? My humble opinion - in this case totally acceptable. At the same time, I feel that there had been standing ovation inflation. So many times in theater (not dance or music yet) a standing ovation is an automatic, as if the audience is congratulating themselves on their brilliant choice of ticket. In your case. seems to me, the tribute was justified and the woman behind you was rude. |
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May 10 2009, 07:55 PM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 596 Joined: 24-June 02 Member No.: 1,781 |
My humble opinion - in this case totally acceptable. At the same time, I feel that there had been standing ovation inflation. So many times in theater (not dance or music yet) a standing ovation is an automatic, as if the audience is congratulating themselves on their brilliant choice of ticket. In your case. seems to me, the tribute was justified and the woman behind you was rude. Agree. Even if this occasion didn't warrant a standing ovation (which I think it did), it was rude of the woman to "correct" you and for poking you. It's perfectly acceptable for someone to sit and clap politely while others want to stand, but it's not that person's place to tell someone how to applaud or express thanks. |
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May 10 2009, 08:48 PM
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Platinum Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,876 Joined: 15-December 01 From: New York, NY Member No.: 1,045 |
I agree, too. The standing O was appropriate in this case. The woman who didn't think so was clueless and boorish.
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May 10 2009, 08:56 PM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 629 Joined: 6-January 02 From: Chicago Member No.: 1,118 |
Thank you for your support. I did not feel out of line, and indeed felt generous and kind for acceding to her wishes. In her favor: there was a charming exchange on stage, with gentleman lined up each handing a rose (and a kiss/hug) to the departing dancer. I can see why she would want to see it.
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May 11 2009, 12:18 AM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
The same exact situation happened to me this past Saturday when I went to the Opera-(Butterfly), but with a little variance...the woman had gotten on my nerves earlier while at the suicidal scene, playing with her candy wrap, for which I turned and VIOLENTLY shooshed her...(others had done it previously in a more polite way, with no success). So when she tapped my shoulder to make me sit, I turned and asked her, sarcastically... "Oh, you, really...with the candy wrap...?! Go and tell the usher to make me sit!! and then turned again and kept applauding...
End of the story. |
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May 11 2009, 02:00 AM
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Board Registrar ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 5,497 Joined: 24-August 02 From: New York City Member No.: 2,125 |
I think it's courteous to allow the dancers their first call before taking to one's feet. That way, the audience will have had a chance to see at least the first bow.
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May 11 2009, 07:33 AM
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Rubies Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 4,869 Joined: 25-October 98 From: Cornwall-on-Hudson Member No.: 24 |
Commenting to the woman behind opened the gates to her response, which I agree was churlish and rude. If something like that happens again, you can always make lemonade by rejoining, "Why, what a brilliant idea! I'll do that, too! Thank you!" (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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May 11 2009, 07:51 AM
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Silver Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 590 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Southern Westchester, NY Member No.: 7,005 |
A standing ovation is an enthusiastic means to show how much you appreciate a performance. Go for it. If someone behind feels they must see the curtain calls, which they have a right to, let them rise to their feet as well. Which they will anyway in a few minutes when they leave.
It is way more offensive to make noise, eat, whisper to friends, play with your cell phone while others are trying to concentrate on a performance. YIKES it's not a baseball game, it's a sacred (if you will) work of art. |
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May 11 2009, 09:30 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 46 Joined: 16-July 03 Member No.: 3,366 |
If someone
QUOTE poked me in the rear I would NOT react kindly!
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May 11 2009, 12:07 PM
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Sapphire Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 2,118 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Miami Beach Member No.: 8,113 |
That was physical harrasement.
Sue the woman... (IMG:http://ballettalk.invisionzone.com/style_emoticons/default/wink1.gif) |
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May 11 2009, 01:53 PM
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Rubies Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Board Moderator Posts: 4,869 Joined: 25-October 98 From: Cornwall-on-Hudson Member No.: 24 |
Or, depending on local and state laws, it's at least simple assault. Call a cop.
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May 12 2009, 12:04 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 34 Joined: 12-October 05 Member No.: 5,932 |
Unbelievable!!!
I say that they have as much of a right to tell me to sit down during an ovation as they do to tell me to stand for one. I think if you have really been touched by a dancer's performance, especially if it has been for years and it is a retirement.... What a wonderful gift to give a dancer at their last curtain call! |
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May 12 2009, 12:23 AM
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Bronze Circle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Member Posts: 431 Joined: 4-February 06 From: Seattle Member No.: 6,182 |
QUOTE I say that they have as much of a right to tell me to sit down during an ovation as they do to tell me to stand for one. Brilliant......that says it all! |
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