kfw
Oct 25 2003, 10:41 PM
I saw “The Company” at a film festival tonight, and it was a big disappointment. On the plus side, the film was made with – or made on, if you will -- The Joffrey Ballet, and it does give us lots and lots of dancing, wonderfully shot. It did renew my great admiration for ballet dancers. We do briefly see Lar Lubovitch teaching a pas de deux. Suzanne Lopez and John Gluckman, dancers/cast members who took part in a question and answer session afterward, did call it an accurate depiction of company life. The opening scenes are of Alwin Nikolais’ “Tensile Involvement,” and we also see, in performance or in rehearsal, excerpts from La Vivandiere, Trinity, Light Rain, and plenty more I can’t remember. The producer had originally planned to include The Green Table. (I wish he would have).
I wasn’t especially taken with some of the choreography, but most of it was real Joffrey rep. To my mind, the big problem with the film is that it has no dramatic heart. In fact it has no drama. We see Neve Campbell’s character become involved with a sous chef, and he’s a likeable guy. They’re a likeable couple. But nothing much happens to them. We follow them throughout the rest of the film, but we don’t see their relationship grow, come to any conflict . . . nothing. In the same way, we see a dancer face off with a ballet master, the company director argue with a choreographer and with a dancer, a dancer lose a role shortly before the piece premieres, and another one blow out her Achilles tendon in rehearsal. Naturally, every thing here happened to someone in the company. Every situation is drawn from Joffrey life. But none are developed. They don’t lead anywhere. This film is like a faux documentary with bad dialogue and stock characters. Campbell and a male dancer have a pas de deux to “My Funny Valentine” (Lubovitch’s piece) before an invited audience at the Grant Park Bandshell, and it begins to rain, and we expect – or at least I expected – that someone would slip and be injured. No such luck for either dancers or audience – again the tiny bit of built-up tension just dissipates.
As “Mr. A,” which is apparently how Joffrey dancers refer to Gerald Arpino, Malcolm McDowell is vain, dictatorial, and overbearing to the point of silliness. He refers to the dancers collectively as “babies.” They mock him and spoof the Alwin ballet in one of the film’s best and least clichéd scenes. Our two real live dancers told us that while Mr. A is a fictional character, there’s a lot of Arpino in the guy. Perhaps so, but he’s a tiresome cliché. I didn’t just dislike the character, I disliked the performance.
In the film’s final set piece, Neve Campbell’s character is injured onstage during a performance (shot in Chicago’s beautiful Auditorium Theatre) of a long time-waster called “The Blue Snake.” If I understood correctly, this is an actual ballet which someone – Campbell, I believe – was taken with when she was ten. Children will love it, I suppose. As for the rest of us, well, it’s a kitschy spectacle in which all the dancers are costumed like bizarre creatures and some are eaten by a huge mechanical, smoke-breathing monster. Are we supposed to snort in derision here? I think so. Are we supposed to be entertained? I can scarcely imagine. Why why why displace a good ballet with this dull thing? Some people will no doubt like this film, perhaps very much. If anyone asked me for a backstage-at-the-ballet film, though, I’d loan them my copy of Frederick Wiseman’s ABT documentary. It’s real. It’s dramatic.
Thank you kfw, I'll probably still go see it if I have the opportunity, but I do appreciate your review. I know there was another long thread on here about the movie, but I sort of lost track of it. So thanks for bringing it up again.
Treefrog
Oct 26 2003, 10:22 AM
Oh my, that does sound disappointing! There's lots of excitement in our household about this movie (plans have already been made to go see it Christmas day, when it opens), but your review certainly tempers my expectations. My kiddos will be happy just to see "their" dancers up on screen, but one would like this movie to appeal to a wider audience.
I just hope that this movie will be playing locally and not just in NYC. Fortunately Altman is a well respected film maker, but sadly the majority of movies shown in the suburbs of Manhattan are your run of the mill sorts.
kfw
Oct 26 2003, 12:42 PM
Treefrog, having been thrilled by a film last week that I had high hopes and low expectations for, that was my intention here, to temper expectations so that everyone just loves "The Company" when they finally see it. B) Seriously, don't make too much of what I wrote, I was probably too hard on it. When I spoke of bad dialogue and stock characters I guess I was mostly thinking of McDowell as company director. And the blurb on the festival's web site reminds me that there is some drama over Campbell's place in the company. It scarcely registered with me, but young viewers will probably have a different reaction. The film has a cast full of ballet dancers too -- lots of good-looking people!
Gringa
Oct 27 2003, 08:18 AM
Thanks for your review kfw. We can't wait for the release of The Company -- I think my DD has worn out her tape of Center Stage, so any new ballet movie will be a treat. Other than Turning Point, does anyone have suggestions for ballet/dance related movies?
vagansmom
Oct 27 2003, 11:25 AM
There is that tearjerker movie about a girl with an illness - cancer? I don't remember - whose dream is to dance professionally. The girl is about 13, I think. The actress/ballet dancer's name escapes me right now. She is a very lovely dancer, clearly evident at her young age, and she went on to a professional ballet career. Despite all the pathos, I remember thinking that it was a very nice movie for a young ballet dancer because the actress herself was such a talented dancer. One had no trouble at all believing that she was a committed ballet dancer.
Treefrog
Oct 27 2003, 11:32 AM
Knowing that Altman is not everyone's cup of tea, I wondered what others are saying about this film. A friend clued me in to the website
Rotten Tomatoes. The reviews in this link are from a more cintematographic perspective -- there's lots of reference to camera angles and such -- but they consistently appreciate and recommend the movie.
Helene
Oct 27 2003, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (vagansmom @ Oct 27 2003, 04:25 PM)
There is that tearjerker movie about a girl with an illness - cancer? I don't remember - whose dream is to dance professionally. The girl is about 13, I think. The actress/ballet dancer's name escapes me right now. She is a very lovely dancer, clearly evident at her young age, and she went on to a professional ballet career. Despite all the pathos, I remember thinking that it was a very nice movie for a young ballet dancer because the actress herself was such a talented dancer. One had no trouble at all believing that she was a committed ballet dancer.
The movie was called "Six Weeks," and it starred Katherine Healy, who has appeared in recent years with Ice Theater of New York.
vagansmom
Oct 28 2003, 04:24 PM
Thanks, Hockeyfan228. I knew someone would come up with that name and title
Regarding "The Company", I'd heard that it's somewhere between documentary and drama but distinctly NOT a docudrama. I actually LIKE the idea of it not being a fictional story with the requisite plot.
I am sorry to hear, though, that Arpino's character is a cliche. I'd much rather have seen him as more of a real person.
dirac
Nov 12 2003, 08:13 PM
kfw, don't you realize ALL movie artistic directors and impresarios have to be vain, egotistical, and overbearing? Otherwise, there's no story. Imagine The Red Shoes with a Boris Lermontov who says,"What, Vicky, you want to marry this young man instead of letting me dominate you out of existence? I understand completely! You have my blessing!" Some drama.
djb
Nov 12 2003, 09:48 PM
Last night I went to watch a video I'd rented, only to discover that the wrong video was in the box. It also wasn't rewound, so I watched some of it to see how it was, without knowing who was in the movie. One female character in shorts, I noticed, had great legs. It turned out to be Neve Campbell.
(The movie is called "Wild Things" and appears to be somewhat cheesy.)
nlkflint
Dec 25 2003, 02:09 PM
Well, I went to check out the movie listings and see where we might go to see "The Company." While I was not surprised to find that it was not playing in my small community, I was surprised to find it was not playing in my county or in the two counties to the north. In addition to the local paper we get the paper from the nearby "big city" and I cannot find it playing anywhere even in the large and populous county to the south of us.
Has any one else checked their local listings? Is it opening only in limited release?

Edited to add:
I searched online and it is not even playing in Miami or Orlando, or anywhere in Florida best as I can tell. Just for fun I searched major cities in the East and it appears to be playing only in NYC. Not even playing in Boston or DC.
Alexandra
Dec 25 2003, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't be alarmed yet. It was scheduled for release in New York and L.A. today, and "other markets" for later release, so it may take a week or two. I don't know the logic behind movie theater bookings.
Cabriole
Dec 25 2003, 03:38 PM
I just came back from seeing "The Company". It opened here in Chicago today (along with NYC & LA). Fun to see so many faces that I know... I'm not sure of the minimum age for young dancers to see the film however; a few references that families may or may not be comfortable with (a tad bit more explicit than Center Stage). Teens should be fine. Always interesting to see how a non-dancer views 'our' world. Ms. Campbell holds her own, in my opinion. And though she is not 'professional', her early training at National Ballet of Canada certainly made it possible to take on the training for this film.
Treefrog
Dec 25 2003, 04:00 PM
We'll let you know in a few hours if 12 is too young

We have tickets to a show later this afternoon.
Cristina
Dec 25 2003, 08:31 PM
nlkflint, and others.
It is not opening in the Houston area until January 16th. We'll be doing our whirlwind State of Texas tour that weekend for SI auditions. I'm hoping it opens in Dallas, also, and we can take it in that evening.
Regardless of the early reviews, we are looking forward to seeing it!
Cristina
:hyper:
Dolphingirl
Dec 25 2003, 10:37 PM
I must say, I loved "The Company". Yes, I do think it had several flaws, but I really did enjoy it. It was really cool being able to see all my favorite dancers on screen, and know that yes, that really is what they are like, or NO, that's not at ALL what they are like. I recognized so many of the places, including the studios, where I rehearsed for Nutcracker with them, way back in '98. I liked seeing so much of their repertoire, especially "Light Rain" which I absolutely adore. However, I disliked "The Blue Snake" quite a lot. It seemed like "Lion King on Broadway" gone horribly wrong. I also disliked Mr. A's character. It didn't seem at all like Mr. Arpino to me, from when I have met him, or seen him on TV, or anything like that. I also felt that the story was a little bit patchy. In my improv club, we're always being told to pick up on clues to bring back later and make the scene grow. It seemed like that would be good advice for this movie. There were a lot of scenes which led nowhere. I don't mean like the performance in the rain where nobody got hurt. I think that the rain just added to the mood of "My Funny Valentine". I mean like the scene where Pierre Lockett gets into an argument with Mr. A (I can't even remember what he is called in the movie) about the dance he is teaching to one of the company members. This could have been brought back later, but it never was.
Really, though, it certainly lived up to my expectations, and I've definitely built up a lot, having been waiting for a good year and a half for this movie. It is definitely worth seeing! Congratulations to the Joffrey on a job well done!
Treefrog
Dec 25 2003, 11:25 PM
I really enjoyed it too. I'll confess, though, that I was riveted by watching the "home team" on the big screen. I wonder how others will receive it?
I was not so bothered by the dropped "plot lines". That's the way life is -- there isn't a plot. We're just used to stories being told in a linear fashion. This movie just jumps in and out of the life of the company, in an almost random fashion. You have to get over the feeling that everything foreshadows something to come.
As for age-appropriateness -- I didn't think there was anything inappropriate for any child old enough to otherwise appreciate the movie. There is a fair amount of partial nudity -- locker room scenes include bare breasts -- and the words "penis" and "condom" flash by. No sex, explicit or otherwise; the closest hint is that Ry's new boyfriend is viewed (fully clothed) after he wakes up at her apartment. (I don't know about my daughter, but I will say that it made ME slightly uncomfortable to see my favorite dancers unclothed. I don't want to see THAT much of people I admire, especially ones I might encounter in an elevator or conducting a master class for my daughters. But this reaction is particular to my situation -- the nudity wouldn't bother me a bit if the dancers were completely unknown to me.)
Gotta add -- I loved the way "White Widow" was filmed (it's the ballet on the trapeze). I HATED "Blue Snake". It was much more Cirque du Soleil than Joffrey.
silvy
Dec 26 2003, 07:57 AM
Hi everyone
Yesterday I saw on BBC news film coverage some shots from "The Company". I got caught by something Robert Altman said: that he had always admired dancers for they give up so much for so little, but that "for them it is not so little. or they would not do it. I thought it was a good summary of a question we dancers face very often.
Also, there was a shot of a girl dancing a variation to a well known music, which I thought it was "La Fille", but could not hear it in the music of my Ashton's RB version. The girl in question is wearing a long tutu, she is dancing it on stage, apparently at an audition or a rehearsal, with someone commenting on her performance. Does anyone know what ballet that is? It could also be some Bournonville.
Silvy
glebb
Dec 27 2003, 12:30 AM
It might be the Fanny Cerrito variation from the "La Vivandiere" Pas de Six.
Anne Hutchinson Guest set the pas de six on Joffrey II in 1976 and it went in to the main Joffrey company's repertoire soon after. Kevin Mackenzie danced the role of Arthur Saint-Leon.
Because A. H. Guest had not yet finished all of her research at the time she staged the ballet for Joffrey, it was performed and to this day is performed in a white tutu similar to the costume for "Konservatoriet.
In "The Company" Suzanne Lopez Prisco and Julianne Kepley perform the Fanny Cerrito Variation
e'smom
Dec 29 2003, 10:29 PM
Went to see The Company in Chicago yesterday (had to go into the city since I'm sure it won't be playing in northwest Indiana any time soon if ever). My daughter was disappointed and felt it was like watching "one long rehearsal". Nice shots of the Joffrey (it was fun to see pieces - and people - on film that we have seen in person) and Chicago but we felt that there was not much of a plot or anything that would really have you identify with the characters.
Maxi3D
Jan 3 2004, 03:56 AM
Well I must said that if one wants to see this movie one has to want to see it badly. Even in L.A. it takes a train, a subway, and a bus ride to get to the theater that is showing it. From the reviews that I had read so far the major part of what tripped up the critics was the fact that this movie has no plot what-so-ever. But I think otherwise because this film doesn't needs a plot to tell a story; the dancing and the dancers are the plot of The Company. Although I must admit at some part of the movie I was confused about what was going on. This movie is different from the last ballet movie, Center Stage. In that movie it showed the life of a ballet student whereas in The Company it showed the life of a ballerina.
gkimbrough
Jan 4 2004, 12:24 AM
If anyone out there was wondering what life as a dancer is like, and
wondering just how fake _Center_Stage_ was, the answer is to be found
in Robert Altman's _The_Company_. Altman absolutely nails it. There
is no overall plot. Just constant rehearsal. No beginnings, but lots of endings.
You can't even tell the players apart half the time. Chaos and beauty.
Yes, this is life in the big ballet world.
One issue that most of the reviews I've read dance around concerns the final ballet,
"The Blue Snake." Nobody is willing to say how bad it was, but I think that was
part of the point: the work going into it is the same whether it turns out to be
trash or treasure, and only opening night can really decide. It was a
laughably dreadful ballet. Intentionally Bad, IMHO. C'mon, "Dancing Monkeys?"
Drosselmeyer
Alexandra
Jan 4 2004, 11:33 AM
Hello GKimbrough -- great to read you again, and thanks for posting this. Everyone I know who's seen the movie (admittedly not that many yet!) has made similar comments. This one "gets it." I like your comments about the Blue Snake, too. You're right. Sometimes everyone (except, perhaps, the choreographer) knows a new work is a stinker from the first day, but you have to go on with it.
Treefrog
Jan 4 2004, 03:04 PM
One of the interesting "non-plots" of the movie is how "Blue Snake" entered the (fictional) repertory of the company. What I mean is that when the project is introduced it is met with skepticism bordering on derision. The audience is kind of left wondering why the AD takes on this particular work, which the dancers and ballet masters suspect from the outset is a dog. (I've heard that, in real life, it was a pet of Neve Campbell's, something she'd always wanted to see produced. So, this is a point in the film where the documentary aspect blurs with the dramatic aspect.)
Mark D
Jan 5 2004, 08:49 PM
Here is a review of
The Company by Robert Gottlieb in The New York Observer. Ouch!!!
http://www.observer.com/pages/dance.aspIf the link does not work go to The New York Observer and click on the Table of Contents and scroll down.
sdj3
Jan 12 2004, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (nlkflint @ Dec 25 2003, 07:09 PM)
Has any one else checked their local listings? Is it opening only in limited release?

The 1/11 Washington Post article on "The Company" references a local release date of Jan. 23. I know it is coming to Austin around that time...
http://balletalert.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15645
lampwick
Jan 12 2004, 07:13 PM
I saw this last night and enjoyed it as a diversion. As a piece of film, I liked it.
I have never seen the Joffrey ballet perform before and have to say that the impression I got is that the repertory seems really shallow. There are no steps...just flashy sets and music. It actually did remind me quite a bit of Cirque de Soleil--minus the acrobatic mastery which is what makes Cirque so good.
For the most part, the dancers look like they tend to be a tad bit on the overdeveloped and sinewy side.. I actually had to chuckle a bit when that one dancer complained of a muscle spasm in the neck. I had just finished whispering to my friend that her neck looked like it was a mess. A little spasm? No Kidding.

She looked like a lovely dancer too, but jeesh! ouch.
I LOVED LOVED LOVED Malcolm McDowell's portrayal of "Mr.A" He had me in stitches every time he opened his mouth. "I Don't Like Pretty" That's classic stuff. I didn't think he came across mean and condescending at all. Notice how none of the dancers seemed to be at all intimidated by him? It's all just hot air. Sometimes there's truth to sterotypes . I can name a few people "Mr.A" reminds me of who I regard quite highly...
I hope I don't make everyone from Chicago hate me, and perhaps if I saw more dancing I'd have a different impression of the Joffrey Ballet. I just really disliked the repertory that was chosen for this film. The dancing was OK (from what I was able to see beneath all the smoke and mirrors). But the choreography was all very shallow. Maybe the energy created by live performance would make this work appear more interesting and exciting. It didn't work for me on film.
OK, taste is subjective. I really did enjoy the movie and the dancing despite all my negative comments. And The Blue Snake really is pretty hysterical. I'd recommend the film.
russianptaylor
Jan 15 2004, 06:06 PM
I saw the movie a little while back and it was a dissappointment. I thought it would be more than it was. I wish they would have put some action or somethig tospice it up at least a little. I liked the dancing and the characters but there wasn'treally a story

~russianptaylor~
Dolphingirl
Jan 16 2004, 01:02 AM
I just wanted to add that a friend of mine, my age, who does not dance, went to see the movie and loved it. She "got" the movie, and was able to articulate back to me exactly what she liked and did not like, both about the style (she thought it was fine that there was no plot) and the dancing (she particularly liked "White Widow" and was very curious about "My Funny Valentine") I will say she is an incredibly cultured and articulate 10th grader, but I was still pretty impressed. The one thing that surprised me was that she loved the "Blue Snake". She understood it's wackiness, and thought it seemed like a good children's ballet, not as part of a serious repertoire, but she liked it all the same. So (at least a very small fraction of) the public has recieved the movie well.
Paul Parish
Jan 16 2004, 01:44 AM
I tried to post this last night.......
"I was at a preview-screening of the Company tonight, realy REALLY enjoyed it -- for hte quality of presence in it all hte way through, the quality of hte attention, the loving absorbed attention....it made me very happy...... It's extremely generous, and is i think a response to the generosity of hte dancers, the recognition of one artist (Altman) that goes to those others, the dancers, who work in such a total way, where what you do is open and close like a flower, and offer up what you've got come rain or come shine when your time comes....
"I just loved it.
"It was great to see Deborah Dawn looking so fine. I really liked Mark Goldweber, the quality of his energy was very appealing -- small part, but really memorable. I quite liked Malcolm MacDowell, even -- I loved it when he told the Italian AMericans that he owed htem nothing, and htat hte biggest award they could give him would be to NOT make it so hard on their boys to be a dancer.... I doubt that Arpino would do that, but I loved it.... I hope all the Billy Elliotts out there get to see him hit em a lick for that.
"THe Blue Snake, even is not all that bad -- where else could the dancer in white who opened the piece get to show his strange, bizarre, FABULOUS quality? As allegories go, it's kinda stupid -- but not much worse than parts of the ballet de la Nuit.
"But hte really beautiful section was the trapeze ballet -- those unending cartwheels, they had hte fullness of eternity in them.... And so lovingly filmed.
..............
I have since learned that Mr Arpino DID make such a speech.... I am glad to know it. It reminds me how Anita Finkel used to say there was never anything mean-spirited in ARpino's ballets. I wish she were here to see the movie.
Old Fashioned
Jan 16 2004, 07:52 PM
Aaargh. The Company is only showing in one theater out of the entire Houston area. ONE! So, I guess I'll have to wait a little while longer until it comes out in wid-ER release where it will be playing at a theater close to home.
BryanM
Jan 18 2004, 04:02 AM
After all the writing about it showing in so few theaters I was pleased to find its at the movie theater in my neighborhood,l about a 5 minute walk. My expectations are high, with Robert Altman, and hoping its not another feel good movie, but a realistic portrayal.
mini cooper
Jan 18 2004, 11:33 AM
I would not call it feel good.
I loved this movie, and did not want it to end. It ended rather abruptly - I was not quite ready for it. My dd, and her non-ballet (but dances other stuff) friend also loved it. We really liked the fact that there was not a plot - it was just glimpses into different parts of people's lives.
For me as a relative ballet novice (compared to many on this board), the dancing was wonderful. I liked all of it. I loved the characters.
It was a couple of days before my daughter and I were able to really talk about it. We both agree that it is not a movie for everyone. The fact that it is not a "story" would probably be off-putting to some.
One interesting thing for me was the development of a couple of the ballet parent characters. They were highly neurotic and controlling characters. This was so realistic for what we have seen in my daughter's years of dancing. On the Parent's forum there is a discussion about the degree of parent's involvement in the dancing lives of their children.
mini cooper
Jan 18 2004, 11:35 AM
Old Fashioned,
I don't know what part of Houston you are in, but the theatre in Houston where it is showing is a neat little theatre. There is great shopping and eating nearby. You may like to make a special outing of it.
Old Fashioned
Jan 18 2004, 11:55 AM
Yep, I'm somewhat familiar with the area it's in, and I would love to go, but it's half an hour to an hour away (depending on traffic) from my place.

I don't usually go out of my way to see movies (making that commute to the theater district is something else), but maybe for this one I will.
Angel2Be
Jan 26 2004, 01:27 AM
QUOTE (Paul Parish @ Jan 16 2004, 06:44 AM)
"I was at a preview-screening of the Company tonight, realy REALLY enjoyed it -- for hte quality of presence in it all hte way through, the quality of hte attention, the loving absorbed attention....it made me very happy...... It's extremely generous, and is i think a response to the generosity of hte dancers, the recognition of one artist (Altman) that goes to those others, the dancers, who work in such a total way, where what you do is open and close like a flower, and offer up what you've got come rain or come shine when your time comes....
"I just loved it."
:yes: I couldn't put it better.
At first the choice of "The Blue Snake" as a finale confused me, but by the end I felt I understood. All this earnestness building up to an apparantly silly spectacle... it was sort of ironic. I also liked how they didn't over-dramatize Ry's injury. The feeling was basically, "And the dancing goes on..." I felt the ending was well-done, and loved the entire film.
"White Widow" was simply gorgeous. Oh, and the male dancers!
I am a little disappointed that they didn't include at least one of the older (I don't know if that's the right word...) works I saw them perform last summer: "Les Noces", "The Rite of Spring", or "Afternoon of a Faun".
I couldn't wait to see it but boy,what a let down. I only saw a glimps of dancers dancing,then there was Neve Campbell dancing to My Funny Valentine (always loved that til this movie) looking as though the dance was specially made for a non dancer. There were interesting people with interesting situations barely mentioned,such a the fellow who needed a place to sleep, the Diva, the stage mother, but we were teased and nothing was ever developed-so who cared! I laughed during the ballets. The music chosen was ugly. I thought I would jump out of my skin,then it suddenly ended! My daughter and her friends liked it a bit more.