Alexandra
Dec 26 2002, 04:01 PM
well, tabloids have headlines, too.
"Scientist To Clone 5 U.S. Presidents.
News Readers get to pick."
The photos included Lincoln and FDR, and then I averted my eyes:)
Better than the People's Choice Awards! I thought we should have a chance to play, too.
If the scientist has an interest in ballet -- or perhaps the First Runner Up Scientist; we can't be picky -- and you could pick 3 ballet people (choreographers, dancers, whatever) from the past to clone -- not bring back as little old men, but reborn, ready to apply their genius to today's troubled times -- who wouldl they be?
(I am not making this up. Check it out when you go to the grocery store. It's the one with the screaming headline: 'Hitler's Whacky Predictions" which included "internet porn and the rise of J.Lo." I wish I wrote for a tabloid. It would be so much more FUN than writing about dance.!)
sylvia
Dec 26 2002, 04:10 PM
Ooh, I'm about to run out the door but I couldn't resist, easily my picks would include Ashton and MacMillan. I would love, love, love to see what they could create on the dancers we have today, on Rojo, Kobborg, Cojocaru and Acosta... I'd love to see what Ashton would make of Sylvie Guillem! And what of her Marguerite (and Armand)? And hear what their views would be on all the issues in ballet at the moment - the internationlization of companies like the RB, how they would bring in new and younger audiences, see how their choreography would adapt to all these changes, that dancers are more athletic than they've ever been, the tendency towards over-extensions, etc, etc... and to see new work by them would make up just a little bit for all the ballets that are being 'lost' that I will never see.
Can we choose composers as well?
Alexandra
Dec 26 2002, 04:11 PM
Why not, Sylvia? In the spirit of the holidays, we should be generous!
pmeja
Dec 27 2002, 10:54 AM
hmmm
petipa
balanchine
ashton
vaganova
nijinsky
Alexandra
Dec 27 2002, 10:58 AM
greedy. Good list, but greedy
Mary J
Dec 27 2002, 04:04 PM
Kronstam
Nureyev
Bruhn
talk about greedy
Alexandra
Dec 27 2002, 04:11 PM
I'd like to give
Fokine another shot, with a company this time. The others I revere -- dancers or choreographers -- would take one look, turn around and run, I fear, except possibly
Balanchine, who is the one choreographer who could adapt to any age.
And I'd be very curious to see how the
Vestris family would make out in New York

That's very greedy, because there were about a dozen oof them, but they'd share a room.
Leigh Witchel
Dec 27 2002, 04:19 PM
I certainly concur with the others already mentioned, but if we've got room -
Vera Volkova
Lincoln Kirstein
Bronislava Nijinska
We need teachers and patrons too. And Nijinska, just because I want to see if there could have been more - or was Les Noces and Les Biches really it?
Alexandra
Dec 27 2002, 04:33 PM
Kirstein -- good clone. Since my Vestris family suggestion was out of deviltry and curiosity, I'd trade them for Lincoln, with his vision and selflessness.
I'd like to see what Nijinska would do, too, although she might well have been a modern dancer/choreographer rather than a ballet one had she joined the firmament at a later time. That, too, would have been interesting to see.
Jane Simpson
Dec 27 2002, 05:25 PM
Tchaikowsky
Fokine
Nureyev
Giannina
Dec 27 2002, 07:36 PM
Among others, John Cranko.
Nanatchka
Dec 27 2002, 10:16 PM
I hate to ask, but can one really clone the dead? Doesn't the cell have to be living? Which would be a different question. But let's see.
Tannaquil LeClerq (who will dance into old age)
Balanchine
Bournonville
Igor Youskevitch
Erik Bruhn
Stanley Williams
Is that too many? If we're back to presidents, I'd like to see Thomas Jefferson.
Alexandra
Dec 27 2002, 10:29 PM
Of course one can clone the dead! Anything is possible...a hang of hair....
Mel Johnson
Dec 27 2002, 11:17 PM
If you have a complete DNA sequence intact, from either a living or a dead source, it is theoretically possible to clone a replicant of the donor. I don't know that anybody has done anything above microorganisms with dead donors. Dolly the sheep was the most complex organism ever positively known to be cloned to date.
Alexandra
Dec 27 2002, 11:31 PM
Mel, it's a tabloid. Truth is not part of the equation!!!
Leigh Witchel
Dec 27 2002, 11:36 PM
ELVIS SEEN CHOREOGRAPHING BALLET ON UFO WITH BIGFOOT IN LEAD!
I miss the Weekly World News. I gave my brother a subscription as a gift when I was in college. He wouldn't speak to me for months.
Farrell Fan
Dec 28 2002, 12:45 PM
In addition to all the choices already made, I'd bring back
Danilova, Karinska, and Robert Irving.
Amy Reusch
Dec 29 2002, 12:50 AM
I want to see the legendary ones, and even some still living that I never saw on stage live at their peak...
Nijinsky, of course,
Kscheshinska
Farrell
Bruhn
Taglioni
Humphrey
Duncan
Graham
Spessivtzeva
Ulanova
St. Denis
Limon
... oh darn, way past 10.... and not even mentioning Legnani or Essler
But of course, without the original surrounding culture to inspire them the clones might just end up couch potatoes, right? Aren't clones supposed to be faded copies of the original... age faster, probably get injured & stiff sooner?
carbro
Dec 30 2002, 01:19 AM
Are we limited to the dear departed? Or can we clone the alive but retired and/or alive and dancing? I'd nominate Carolyn Adams, who left such a huge void when she retired. Farrell, Vilella, Makarova, van Hamel. A clone of Gelsey Kirkland would probably require a second (back-up) clone, maybe a third, just to be sure. One of Jose Carreno for the coming generation, and one for the next and the next, etc. And Angel, although he appears likely to dance magnificently well into the future.
Are there any administrators whose cloning we should lobby to prohibit?
Alexandra
Dec 30 2002, 10:29 AM
Good poiint, Carbro. On a less serious note, perhaps we could clone some of today's traveling guest stars. Then they could dance everywhere, yet save on air fare!
I can think of a lot of administrators I wouldn't want to clone, and few that I would!
atm711
Dec 31 2002, 08:27 PM
Well, I just finished reading a book called "The Secret" by Eva Hoffman on the very subject--so I feel fully qualified to name my clones:
Diaghilev
Balanchine
Tudor
carbro
Jan 2 2003, 03:57 AM
ME! Because someone's gotta be there to see Nijinsky II and Fonteyn II in the new ballets by Balanchine II, and then report back to Alexandra II and her circle at Ballet Alert II! ;)
Estelle
Jan 2 2003, 10:44 AM
I'd add to the list Saint-Léon, Perrot, and also poor Giuseppina Bozzachi and Emma Livry, they had such short lives!
Calliope
Jan 2 2003, 11:56 AM
I'd bring back Pavlova and Petipa, just to ask them what they thought about ballet today.
I' d second Balanchine and Karinska
LeClercq, Robbins
and pull out of retirement Deborah Wingert, Farrell, Sibley, Arthur Mitchell.
I'd clone Elizabeth Walker too, just so she's always there
carbro
Jan 14 2008, 10:31 PM
On a different thread, I just nominated Frederic Franklin, but I thought it would be fun to revive this old thread. We've gained hundreds of new members since Alexandra first posed the question and Calliope added the last reply.
pmeja
Jan 15 2008, 06:21 AM
QUOTE (carbro @ Dec 30 2002, 01:19 AM)

Are there any administrators whose cloning we should lobby to prohibit?
Cygnet
Jan 15 2008, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (pmeja @ Jan 15 2008, 11:21 AM)

QUOTE (carbro @ Dec 30 2002, 01:19 AM)

Are there any administrators whose cloning we should lobby to prohibit?

LOL!!

I can think of two ADs in two hemispheres.
(
Dare I state who they are)? Nah!
diane
Jan 16 2008, 06:03 AM

why not?
-d-
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